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  1. Cheney Aide Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny # 1
    Pia

    Cheney Aide Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny

    Cheney Aide Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/28/politics/28leak.html
    By DAVID JOHNSTON
    and RICHARD W. STEVENSON
    Published: October 28, 2005
    As rumors coursed through the capital, Mr. Fitzgerald gave no public signal of how he intended to proceed, further intensifying the anxiety that has gripped the White House and left partisans on both sides of the political aisle holding their breath.

    Mr. Fitzgerald's preparations for a Friday announcement were shrouded in secrecy, but advanced amid a flurry of behind-the-scenes discussions that left open the possibility of last-minute surprises. As the clock ticked down on the grand jury, people involved in the investigation did not rule out the disclosure of previously unknown aspects of the case.


    White House officials said their presumption was that Mr. Libby would resign if indicted, and he and Mr. Rove took steps to expand their legal teams in preparation for a possible court battle.

    Among the many unresolved mysteries is whether anyone in addition to Mr. Libby and Mr. Rove might be charged and in particular whether Mr. Fitzgerald would name the source who first provided the identity of a covert C.I.A. officer to Robert D. Novak, the syndicated columnist. Mr. Novak identified the officer in a column published July 14, 2003.

    The investigation seemed to be taking an unexpectedly extended path after nearly two years in which Mr. Fitzgerald brought more than a dozen current and former administration officials before the grand jury and interviewed Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney to determine how the identity of the officer, Valerie Plame Wilson, became public.

    Mr. Fitzgerald is expected to hold a news conference at the Justice Department in Washington on Friday. His spokesman, Randall Samborn, declined to comment.

    Mr. Fitzgerald has examined whether the leak of Ms. Wilson's identity was part of an effort by the administration to respond to criticism of the White House by her husband, Joseph C. Wilson IV, a former diplomat. After traveling to Africa in 2002 on a C.I.A.-sponsored mission to look into claims that Iraq had sought to acquire material there for its nuclear weapons program, Mr. Wilson wrote in an Op-Ed article in The New York Times on July 6, 2003, that the White House had "twisted" the intelligence regarding the suspected transaction to justify the invasion of Iraq.

    At the White House, the withdrawal of Harriet E. Miers as the president's nominee to the Supreme Court dominated the day. Still, officials waited anxiously for word about developments in the investigation, which has the potential to shape the remainder of Mr. Bush's second term.

    Officials said that Mr. Bush, who traveled to Florida on Thursday to view the damage from Hurricane Wilma, would keep to his planned schedule on Friday, including a speech on terrorism in Norfolk, Va., if indictments were announced.

    Administration officials said that the White House would seek to keep as low a profile as possible if indictments were issued; Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, did not schedule a briefing for Friday, and Mr. Bush plans to leave in the afternoon for a weekend at Camp David.

    With so much about the outcome of the case still in doubt, political strategists in Washington spent the day gaming out the implications of different endings.

    The apparent delay in a decision about whether to charge Mr. Rove, and the continuation of the criminal inquiry, is a mixed outcome for the administration. It leaves open the possibility that Mr. Rove, Mr. Bush's closest and most trusted adviser, could avoid indictment altogether, an outcome that would be not just a legal victory but also the best political outcome the White House could hope for under the circumstances.

    Yet, in apparently leaving Mr. Rove in legal limbo for now, Mr. Fitzgerald has left him and Mr. Bush to twist in the uncertainty of a case that has delved deep into the innermost workings of the White House and provided Democrats an opportunity to attack the administration's honesty and the way it justified the war to the American people.

    Mr. Rove has had to step back from many of his public duties, including appearing at fund-raisers, and he is likely to have to keep a low profile as long as the investigation continues. It could also leave him distracted, depriving the White House of his full attention at a time when Mr. Bush is struggling to regain his political footing after months in which the bloody insurgency in Iraq, Hurricane Katrina and the failed Supreme Court nomination of Harriet E. Miers have left the administration stumbling.

    An indictment of Mr. Libby, who is seen by many people in the White House as Mr. Cheney's alter ego, would also keep a focus on the way in which the administration built its case that Saddam Hussein was a threat who had to be dealt with. Any trial of Mr. Libby would likely shine a spotlight in particular on Mr. Cheney and his prewar role.

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  3. Cheney Aide Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny # 2
    MaraC
    I just don't get. it. Libby got indicted not for any wrongdoing in this case per se, but for lying to the Grand Jury. Oh I guess he is in good company then :roll:

    What is this all about?

  4. Cheney Aide Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny # 3
    Ulrich-TX
    Disclosure of Valerie Plame as a CIA agent...

  5. Cheney Aide Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny # 4
    Caesar_MG

    Slow Down With The Executioner!

    Just a reminder:

    Indictment is not a conviction. Let the Legal system run its course.

    Also:

    The Libs are FUMING that The Architecht wasn't indicted.

    Strangely, no mention whatsoever of Valeria Plame in the indictment. Scooter was indicted on his testimony, or rather, gaps in his testimony. Strange how Clinton was able to mention some form of "I don't remember" 248 times in his testimony on the Paula Jones/ Monica Lewinsky case, and the Libs came running to his defense, yet Scooter and Karl say "I don't remember" or "I don't recall" two and a half years after alleged conversations took place, and they are on the hook for perjury.

    Isn't there something in the Constitution about Due Process? It's the Fifth ammendment.

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
    Scooter Libby should not face any form of punishment or condemnation unless he is tried and convicted in a court of law. That's what "due process" is all about. What bothers me, is that the rejoicing Libs are treating this as if he has been tried and convicted ALREADY. Please, for the sake of the system, let the process run it's course.

    Just my two cents.

  6. Cheney Aide Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny # 5
    Pia
    What bothers me, is that the rejoicing Libs are treating this as if he has been tried and convicted ALREADY. Please, for the sake of the system, let the process run it's course.
    100%agree.

  7. Cheney Aide Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny # 6
    Caesar_MG
    Scooter was indicted on 5 counts:

    1 count of obstruction of Justice
    2 counts of perjury
    2 counts of making a false statement

    I find it peculiar that nothing in there was about the Valerie Plame situation.

    Am I to assume that the charge has been dropped?

  8. Cheney Aide Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny # 7
    Pia
    http://www.nytimes.com/?8na

    Libby Faces 5 Charges, but Not for Disclosing Classified Data
    By DAVID STOUT 3:36 PM ET
    I. Lewis Libby Jr. resigned after being charged with obstruction, two counts of perjury and two of making false statements. Karl Rove was not indicted today.

  9. Cheney Aide Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny # 8
    Ulrich-TX
    You'd think people would have learned from Watergate...

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